Punk Trivia

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The U2 record incident

Negativland's next project was the U2 EP, with samples from American Top 40 host Casey Kasem. In 1991, Negativland released a single with the title "U2" displayed in very large type on the front of the packaging, and "Negativland" in a smaller typeface. An image of the Lockheed U-2 spy plane was also on the single cover.

The songs within were parodies of the group U2's well-known 1987 song, "I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For", including kazoos and extensive sampling of the original song. The song "The Letter U And The Numeral 2" features a musical backing to an extended profane rant from well-known disc jockey Casey Kasem, lapsing out of his more polished and professional tone during a frustrating rehearsal which had gone out to many stations as raw feed and was taped by several engineers, who had been passing it around for a number of years. One of Kasem's milder comments was "These guys are from England and who gives a shit?" (U2's members are in fact from the Republic of Ireland).

U2's label Island Records quickly sued Negativland, claiming that placing the word "U2" on the cover violated trademark law, as did the song itself. Island Records also contended that the single was an attempt to deliberately confuse U2 fans, awaiting the impending release of Achtung Baby, into purchasing what they believed was a new U2 album called Negativland.

In June, 1992, R. U. Sirius, publisher of the magazine Mondo 2000, came up with an interesting idea. Publicists from U2 had contacted him regarding the possibility of interviewing Dave "The Edge" Evans, hoping to promote U2's impending multi-million dollar Zoo TV Tour, which featured found sounds and live sampling from mass media outlets (things for which Negativland had been known for some time). Sirius, unbeknownst to Edge, decided to have his friends Joyce and Hosler of Negativland conduct the interview. Joyce and Hosler, fresh from Island's lawsuit, peppered the Edge with questions regarding his ideas about the use of sampling in their new tour, and the legality of using copyrighted material without permission. Midway through the interview, Joyce and Hosler revealed their identities as members of Negativland. An embarrassed Edge reported that U2 were bothered by the sledgehammer legal approach Island Records took in their lawsuit, and furthermore that much of the legal wrangling took place without U2's knowledge: "by the time we [U2] realized what was going on it was kinda too late, and we actually did approach the record company on your [Negativland's] behalf and said, 'Look, c'mon, this is just, this is very heavy...'" Island Records reported to Negativland that U2 never authorized samples of their material; Evans' response was, "that's complete bollocks, there's like, there's at least six records out there that are direct samples from our stuff."[2]

The "U2" single (along with other related material) was re-released in 2001 on a "bootleg" album entitled These Guys Are from England and Who Gives a Shit, released on "Seelard Records" (a parody of Negativland's record label Seeland Records). It is thought likely that Negativland themselves were responsible for the re-release, and that U2 gave their blessing; although the Negativland website refers to this release as a bootleg, it is available from major retailers like Best Buy, Amazon, and Tower Records, as well as Negativland's own mail-order business.

Negativland are interested in intellectual property rights, and argue that their use of U2's and others' material falls under the fair use clause. In 1995, they released a book, with accompanying CD, called Fair Use: The Story of the Letter U and the Numeral 2, about the whole U2 incident (from Island Records first suing Negativland for the release to Negativland gaining back control of their work four years later). The book ends with a large appendix of essays about fair use and copyright by Negativland and others, telling the story with newspaper clippings, court papers, faxes, press releases and other documents arranged in chronological order. An unfortunate side effect of the Negativland-Island lawsuit was another one brought on between Negativland and SST, which served to sever all remaining ties the two had. To get back at Negativland (while wryly circumventing their name), SST founder Greg Ginn later released the Negativ(e)land: Live on Tour album on SST.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negativland

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brons of taguig wrote:

[b]the RAMONES,SEX PISTOLS&THE CLASH are 3 of the most influential punkrock bands in the history of rock n roll.Before the term punk was invented in the 70's by the press as a label to the rising youth subculture in the US & UK.There were 3 bands in the late 60's really started it all namely- MC5,THE STOOGES & THE VELVET UNDERGROUND...

MC5- first came to prominence as figureheads to JOHN SINCLAIRS "WHITE PANTHER PARTY" in Detroit going to Chicago to play at 1968 democratic convention riots . Describe retrospectively as the first 70's band in the 60's.The MC5 represented about equal parts dope & revolutionary ideology,macho flash& uncompromisingly violent high energy rock n roll.=The 70's punk revival was a scene that MC5 originally pioneered.MC5 is the grand daddies of AMERICAN HARDCORE....


THE STOOGES- a band that was formed by the legendary JAMES JEWEL OSTERBURG a.k.a " IGGY POP" together w/d RON ASHETON on guitars ,SCOTT ASHETON on drums& DAVE ALEXANDER on bass.Elektra records scooped them up along w/d MC5 in 1965.Track after track of 3 chord banal ,slobbering rock n roll, it was quintessential punk rock hailed by afficionados of the genre ridiculed by other sections of rock press.....


THE VELVET UNDERGROUND-the seminal New york band & one of the most important influence in rock ,though never accorded during their existence the recognition their pioneering music warranted .They were formed in 1966 w/d LOU REED-guitar & vocals,JOHN CALE-bass & viola ,STERLING MORRISON -guitars, MAUREEN TUCKER-drums.Fortunately they had by that time came to attention of ANDY WARHOL to add to his multi media unit "THE FACTORY"

New York Dolls pa.. wag mo kakalimutan 2.. and2 c johnny thunders...

EDDIE "TOKWA" SIOJO - the original vocalist of BETRAYED

BETRAYED 2ND LINE UP:

DOMINIC "PAPADOM" GAMBOA - vocals
BOYET MIGUEL - bass
MANNY "AJ PEANUTS" PAGSUYUIN - drums
BUDDY TRINIDAD [from the original classic line up] - guitars


R.D.A - means "RAPID DEPLOYMENT & ANTIDOTE


AL QUINT - legendary punk columnist & founder of the "SUB-URBAN PUNK FANZINE"

RAY SEPTIC - vocalist of SEPTIC TANK

THE STINKY TOYS - pioneers of "FRENCH PUNK" Music

ROCK OLA - a dance club along VITO CRUZ .It became the hottest hang out of "punk & new wave afficionados" all over Manila in the 80's

BRAVE NEW WORLD PART 2 - venue "U.P LOS BANOS"

JING GARCIA - former writer of "JINGLE MAGAZINE" .He's one of the most well knowned columnist in the Philippines

PARALYZED BODY INC. - an independent entrepreneurial company founded by "TOMMY TANCHANCO"

HILLY CRYSTAL - [1931 - 2007] - owner 0f the legendary New York punk club "CBGB"

"A BENEFIT FOR VICTIMS OF VIOLENT CRIME" - a benefit album released by "ANTI FLAG" their aim is to raise funds for the victims of violence & crime

BRETT GUREWITZ - guitarist / co-writer of the political punk band "BAD RELIGION" . He's also the founder of EPITAPH RECORDS

CONCENTRATION X - a U.S punk & hardcore fanzine in the 80's

RUSS RANKIN - former vocalist of "GOOD RIDDANCE" & current vocalist of "ONLY CRIME"

DIDITS GONZALES - legendary punk photographer , rock critic & plays a huge part in the early days of PHILIPPINE PUNK SCENE

S.H.A.R.P - means "SkinHead Against Racial Prejudice"

DONITA SPARKS - one of the innovators of the 90's "RIOT GIRL" movement. She is the singer of L7

GOO GOO DOLLS - started out as a punk band before they turned them selves into the more commercial "alternative" music

MAGNIFIED PLAID - the original name of "MXPX"

HANDSOME - nickname of DICK MANITOBA lead singer of THE DICTATORS

PUNKROCK AN ORAL HISTORY - a book that was written by "JOHN ROBB" vocalist of the punk soul outfit "GOLDBLADE".The book contains 150 interviews from diff. "PUNKBANDS & SCENESTERS"

COCK SPARROW - original name of COCK SPARRER , a "melodic Oi / Punk " band in the mid 70's

MAXIMUM ROCK N ROLL - one of the worlds longest running fanzine

ON DISCO - a small "PUNK/CHAUNG" hang out joint located along "ROXAS BLVD." in the 80's

NERBY CRIES - a NewYork based fil-am punk band led by ex- PRIVATE STOCK "EDMUND ARAULLO"

T.R.A.S.H - [ Total Rebellion Against Society's Hypocrites] a band that was formed by "RAY DECAY"

WINSON SMITH - punkrock artist

GENERATION - X - before Billy idol & Tony James became SSS , they were part of a quartet callede "GENERATION X"

THE NEWYORK DOLLS - the main influence of both The RAMONES & SEX PISTOLS.The dolls remain the patron saint of punks drunker side but they also played eccentric uncles to the 80's hairmetal movement

THE NEWYORK DOLLS:
DAVID JOHANSEN - guitars
JOHNNY THUNDERS - [R.I.P] - guitars
ARTHUR KANE -[R.I.P] bass
JERRY NOLAN [R.I.P] - drums

COLD AS THE CLAY - Gregg Graffin's second proper solo album which features members of the political folk punk band THE WEAKERTHANS.This album is different from the usual forte of GREGG GRAFFIN in BAD RELIGION

AGENT ORANGE - one of the more musically talented & diverse band to emerge from the incipient hardcore movement . Thier debut album "LIVING IN DARKNESS" released under RHINO RECORDS in 1981 was one of the finest hardcore punk album in the 80's

MANIC PANIC - a punk boutique located at SAINT MARK'S PLACE is owned by TISH & SNOOKIE of "THE SICK FUCKS"

CHEETAH CROME - a.k.a "STIV BATORS"


ANOTN FIER - drummer of the "FEALIES"

JOE KEITHLEY - He's the forefather of canadian punk scene being the front man of "D.O.A"

MIKE PARK - vocalist of the SKA PUNK outfit "THE CHINKEES" . With tracks HANA,ASIAN PRODIGY,SHES'S MY FRIEND, you can skank your feet with their upbeat & socially inclined songs . MIKE PARK is the owner of "ASIAN MAN RECORDS"

JULY 19 1978 - The "DEAD KENNEDY'S" was formed

THE DIODES - aside from D.O.A , the DIODES are also considered as one of Canadian punk pioneers

THE GERMS:

DARBY CRASH - [R.I.P] - vocals
LORNA DOOM - bass
PAT SMEAR - guitars
DON BOLLES - drums

ARI UP - She's the vocalist of "THE SLITS"

JOAN JETT - founder of the teenage all girl band "THE RUNAWAYS" . She's also the vocalist of JOAN JETT & THE BLACKHEARTS.Her trademark blend of punk,metal & rock n roll is distinct . She's considered as the queen of "RIOT GIRL" movement

RED CORPSE - TARLAC hardcore pioneers

WALLY MALLARI - vocals
ARIS MANABAT - lead guitar
BENSON ORTALEZA - guitar
VOX ABUY - bass
RONNIE SACUEZA - drums

THIS IS COOL.....
LONG LIVE HARD CORE!!!!

Did Ray Cappo really sold out in Italy?

PUNKBANDS WITH HIGHLY EDUCATED MEMBERS

Milo Auckerman, the Descendants /PhD, biochemistry
Jello Biafra, Dead Kennedys/ Studied acting and history of Paraguay at UC Santa Cruz
Dave Dictor, MDC /Special education teacher
Greg Graffin, Bad Religion /PhD, zoology; life sciences professor at UCLA
Davey Havoc, AFI /Double major (English and psychology), UC Berkeley
Dexter Holland, the Offspring /PhD candidate, molecular biology
Jose Palafox, Yaphet Kotto/ UC Berkeley ethnic studies professor
Max Ward, Spazz, 625 Thrashcore (and formerly Capitali$t Casualties),/ PhD candidate at NYU

WHERE THE HELL THEY GOT THEIR NAMES?

(hed) pe - (hed) stands for "higher thought," they added the 'pe' for legal reasons
and went by Hed Planetary Evolution. Then, for two albums, the abbreviation 'pe'
meant 'Planet Earth.' Then they got rid of the parentheses and capitalized "HED," and
added periods to 'p.e.' At last check hed is lower case back in parentheses and
without periods on 'pe.'

BEASTIE BOYS -'Beastie' is an acronym for 'Boys Entering Anarchistic States Toward
Internal Excellence'.

CLASH - taken from a newspaper headline describing 'A Clash With Police'

Hüsker Dü — is the name of a Scandinavian memory-based board game that means "Do you remember?"

GREEN DAY — "green day" is a slang term for spending a day smoking marijuana.

DEAD KENNEDYS — the name was not meant to insult the assassinated Kennedy brothers, but to quote vocalist Jello Biafra, "to bring attention to the end of the American Dream".

CRASS - A reference to the David Bowie song "Ziggy Stardust"

BLACK FLAG - suggested by guitarist Greg Ginn's brother, Raymond Pettibone,because
"if a white flag means surrender, a black flag means anarchy." also an American
brand of Pest Control.When Adam Ant first played in California, Black Flag gave out
buttons that read: 'Black Flag kills Ants'

SHAI HULUD - named after the gigantic Sandworms of Arrakis from the 1984 sci-fi film
Dune, based on the Frank Herbert sci-fi novel of the same name.

STIFF LITTLE FINGRES - after The Vibrators' "Stiff Little Fingers"

BAD BRAINS - after The Ramones' song "Bad Brain"

BURNING AIRLINES - after Brian Eno's "Burning Airlines Give You So Much More"

TEXAS IS THE REASON - after a line from The Misfits' "Bullet"

FUGAZI - from the military slang meaning "Fucked Up, Got Ambushed, Zipped In" in
reference to those who 'fucked up' and 'got ambushed' and where
subsequently 'zipped in' to body bags. Or it possibly derives from the Italian-American slang term 'fugazi' for something that is "forged/not authentic." Which might apply to the 'bogus' situations soldiers often found themselves in.

MC5 -the band liked the name for some reason before thinking up the acronym 'Motor City Five'(for Detriot)

RIVAL SCHOOL - the band's name (and that of their only LP) comes from the Capcom
fighting game, Rival Schools: United By Fate.

7SECONDS - from The Dils EP, 198 Seconds of The Dils,Kevin Seconds miswrote the title on his desk.. over time, everything else faded, but the 7 Seconds part was there, circled it and it stuck.

GORILLA BISCUIT -after a popular drug in the NYC area known as quaaludes, which
people called "ape shit," or "gorilla biscuits" due to the pill's large size.

AVENGED SEVENFOLD - taken from the biblical story of Cain and Abel in Genesis 4:15,
which reads; "But the Lord said to him, Therefore whoever slayeth Cain, vengeance
shall be taken on him sevenfold'"

KILLDOZER - from a 1940s novel Killdozer by Theodore Sturgeon.

ALEXISONFIRE - from contortionist stripper, Alexis Fire, which nearly resulted in a lawsuit from the stripper's representatives.

The POGUES - originally called Póg mo Thóin - Gaelic for "Kiss my ass". Shortened to
The Pogues after complaints received by the BBC.

PENNYWISE -named after the monster(a clown) from the critically acclaimed Stephen
King novel, "It".

The RAMONES – Paul McCartney used the alias Paul Ramone when booking hotel rooms. So the band decided to use the last name Ramone even though it's not their given name.

CIRCLE JERKS - from the act where several individuals(usually male) masturbate in a
circle.

AGENT ORANGE -named after the chemical defoliant so chillingly used by the USA in the Vietnam War.

VERUCA SALT - from a female character in the movie Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (AKA Willy Wonka) played by Julie Dawn Cole (who is not in the band)

MISFITS - from a 1961 movie starring Clarke Gable and Marilyn Monroe.

VOODOO GLOW SKULLS -their name was inspired by plastic "voodoo glow skulls" once sold at Disneyland.

Rocket from the Crypt - from Pere Ubu's former protopunk band Rocket from the Tomb

L7 -the band's name derives from a 1950s slang phrase meaning "square", but is often
mistaken for a reference to the sex position, "69".

AFI - stands for "A Fire Inside" which 'represents the feeling inside when you hold
in your emotions or last night's jalapeño slammers.

BUZZCOCKS - from the term "bus cock". Men sometimes get an erection because of the vibrations in a heavy diesel engine in a bus or truck.It's also British slang for vibrators.

311 -Police code for indecent exposure.One of P-Nut's friends (Jim Watson) was arrested, cuffed (naked) and taken home to his parents. He was issued a citation for a code 311 (indecent exposure).They thought this was funny, so they took it as their band name."

ATREYU - from a character in" The Neverending Story".

88 Fingers Louie -the name comes from a unsavory Flintstones cartoon character who
sells a hot piano to Fred as an anniversary present for Wilma in the 18th episode

At the Drive-In - from a lyric of the song "Talk dirty to me" by Poison.

Cypress Hill- named after Cypress Ave in South Gate, California. A street which ran
through their neighborhood and where Sen Dog once lived.

PRIMUS- they called themselves 'The Primates' but heard about another band with the same name, so they evolved into Primus (which means "first" in Latin).

The Suicide Machines -inspired by Dr. Kevorkian's "deathmobile" They were originally called "Dr. Kevorkian and the Suicide Machines"

Eh sino naman ang pinaka "UNANG" punk d2 sa pinas? hehehehehehe

sarap basahin lahat ito! salamat sa info!

sino ang pinaka panget na vox sa hardcore punk scene??

eto may masabi lang... si Sir Bobby Balingit nagpaparticipate din sa mga underground art exhibitions.. yung last e yung sa Kalye Art Gallery... p.s. ang saya gitarahin nung Casio Guitar niya na may built-in amp

tumaba utak ko dito sa sobrang walang ginagawa pota

DanPuzzle wrote:

eto may masabi lang... si Sir Bobby Balingit nagpaparticipate din sa mga underground art exhibitions.. yung last e yung sa Kalye Art Gallery... p.s. ang saya gitarahin nung Casio Guitar niya na may built-in amp

pagkakaalam ko siya rin ung gumawa ng cover art ni axel pin pin yung remote controll

AMAZING THREAD!

Ok, let me share something. I wonder if anyone here have ever heard about the bands T.H.C., 5milescream, and VOID. These bands used to play with Ill-Askatrach back in the days in various places in Bulacan, Cubao and Proj. 4. They arent probably well-known, but these groups also had their times in their own punkhc scene during mid and late 90's (if Im not mistaken). At that time they used to cover songs from bands Orange9mm, V.O.D., Beastie boys, and Poison the well, etc. I'm sure Pidol would still remember them. Cheers