THE GOD THREAD

just wondering what your views on religion/spirituality are. do you follow any? i'll start.

i'm an agnostic bordering on atheism. how about you people?

ANCHOR - CHOKEHOLD

You wont be my guiding light in this world gone mad - I dont need fairy tales to lean on - You manipulate the mind that still has to learn - Replace their thoughts with bullshit - Deception burns - You present yourself as caring but I can see right through - Slavery and mind control is all you quest for - I wont fall. I wont fall in your group in need of something to hold -Ive got my mind and its thoughts are only mine -I need no religion to prove I exist - Only room for my mind to learn and tell me whats right - Not no fictitious male being, not no sexist book of lies - I never needed a crutch to make me strong or to hold on to my beliefs -And Id never turn to such a fucking lie -Id never be that weak...

raymond wrote:

ANCHOR - CHOKEHOLD

You wont be my guiding light in this world gone mad - I dont need fairy tales to lean on - You manipulate the mind that still has to learn - Replace their thoughts with bullshit - Deception burns - You present yourself as caring but I can see right through - Slavery and mind control is all you quest for - I wont fall. I wont fall in your group in need of something to hold -Ive got my mind and its thoughts are only mine -I need no religion to prove I exist - Only room for my mind to learn and tell me whats right - Not no fictitious male being, not no sexist book of lies - I never needed a crutch to make me strong or to hold on to my beliefs -And Id never turn to such a fucking lie -Id never be that weak...

ey-men!! haha..

I need no religion to prove I exist - Only room for my mind to learn and tell me whats right -

agnostic/atheist

i have been reading up on paganism and the way it works.
interesting yung mga views nila about the earth.
plus the concept of having both a goddess and a god is intriguing, altthough mas kilala yung goddess.

Christianity...

Christianity


[btw, i think we have some Buddhism kid here...]

keida wrote:

agnostic/atheist

i have been reading up on paganism and the way it works.
interesting yung mga views nila about the earth.
plus the concept of having both a goddess and a god is intriguing, altthough mas kilala yung goddess.

Kit, check mo yun Fifth Sacred Thing by Starhawk, kakasimula ko pa lang pero ayos, matagal na binigay sakin to ni bebe kaso di pa nbibigyan ng oras..ganda ng setting "ecologically devastated mid-21st-century California" so mga year 2050 at wasak na wasak na ang mundo..nbanggit ang manila at ang "tagalog" malamang kasi maraming pinoy sa california..

If you feel like questioning Christianity.. check nyo The Hardcore-Punk Guide to Christianity by Robin Banks sa http://www.diy-punk.org/diyfiles/hcpguide/

treblinka, go and talk to motmot in person..... also try atan..... hehehe
ako i dont care. as long as i am surrounded by people i care and love, and those same people care and love me back. that all i ever need.

GOD? c'mon....

i was agnostic before....




















then........






















i found SATAN


















now, i Believe there is GOD

success story tong si corix ah. haha

I don't know, after I have watched this movie, I've been beginning to have doubts about christianity and religion. I don't consider myself as an atheist, religious, or any. I am like "give-me-more-credible-proof-to-believe".

In case you haven't heard or watched it. here's the link for the movie I am talking about:

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com

Random question, if you don't believe in Christ, are you an atheist? or anti-christ na?

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Random question, if you don't believe in Christ, are you an atheist? or anti-christ na?


no you're a muslim.

xjay wrote:

I don't know, after I have watched this movie, I've been beginning to have doubts about christianity and religion. I don't consider myself as an atheist, religious, or any. I am like "give-me-more-credible-proof-to-believe".

In case you haven't heard or watched it. here's the link for the movie I am talking about:

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com

Random question, if you don't believe in Christ, are you an atheist? or anti-christ na?

i love this docu, srslee.

thanks for the zeitgeist link, ma-i-dowload hehe mukhang interesting

PALAGAY KO LANG....

PAG DUMATNG ANG TIME NA LAST BREATH OR SA DYING BED NYO OR SA TIME NA TALAGANG
DOWN NA DOWN KA, SOBRA HIRAP OR CRISIS NA HALOS MAIYAK KA NA....AT WALA NA TALAGA MALAPITAN....

DEEP INSIDE....SOMEHOW....BUBULONG DIN KAYO AT HAHANAPIN SYA EH...WHO EVER OR WHAT EVER IT IS......

LA LANG..

WHAT YOU THINK?

SPIRITUALITY....YUN LANG SANA WAG MAWALA SATIN....
DI NAMAN LAHAT NAG EEVOLVE LANG SA MGA NAKIKITA NATIN EH

AYUZ....PARTY!!

siksik. liglig. at naguumapaw.

anarkispanky wrote:

Random question, if you don't believe in Christ, are you an atheist? or anti-christ na?


no you're a muslim.

Christianity, after endlessly searching and dissecting its "ugliness" and all that jazz.

but more than anything my beliefs root on the notion of a higher entity, whether people call it "God", "allah", "maguwayen", "bathala" or any name of that sort. i don't force my stance on anyone tho

Spirituality...

I believe in our own will. I don't believe in spirits as saviours, no one can save us but ourselves. Yeah, maybe there's a god, but what would it be when you see satan on his back?
Maybe there's an entity out there who helps us when we are in dire situation, then it would always end up to us using our own will or desire.

Organize religion really fucked-up this whole faith thing... so it's either you believe or don't.

But don't forget that it's you who control your life.

And yeah, send some positive energy to those who need one...

my family is a devout christians... even one of my tita (let her be with God) do ahve apparitions...

but then dahil sa pagkatamad namen sa pagsimba... we became so problematic bumaba self esteem namen... i do doubt God before... then having interest on learning other religions like Islam (sa pagbasa ko ng isang mini book tungkol sa Islam natuto ako magsulat ng Arabic hahaha) and buddhism... pati Satanism natutunan ko sa mga tropa ko na naniniwala sa faith na un... i even steal bucks from my classmate... smoke marijuana just to be in... or pakapariwara... pero in the end in the midst of insanity, depression, stress, bulshit experiences and all that it seems like the end of the world... i found God again... i thought it's really the end... but i'm wrong... life must go on...

yes maraming sablay sa christianity... kelangan ganito gawin mo kelangan ganyan karami ang ipray mo para tanggap ka sa langit... pero ayan ang tradisyon... ehh nakakapagod ung mga ganun para saken... hahaha hindi naman kelangan ganun sa aking pananaw... basta faithful ako kay God at matutunan ang gma magagandang turo ng Bibliya at ibahagi ito... aun lang ang importante...

that's why maski sa islam... marami talagang mali lalu na mga paniniwala ng mga radikal na patayin ang mga infidel nakuuu delikado na talaga... sad nga lang...

I dont believe in any fucking religion sorry.. they're only business for me like noontime show




but i believe in god

i don't believe in any forms of religion although I was raised Catholic.

But I do believe that there's a one supreme being up there!
HE may come in different names (wag lng lucifer harhar) yet similar doctrines.

i ain't no ZEALOT.

However, after all those years questioning God's existence, i found JESUS.

right on!!! hahahaha!!!

during my second year, i questioned his existence. "does He really exists?"
but now, after our 4th year retreat, i realized that there is a God, that never leaves you even if you leave Him. He's always there, waiting, for your return.

im a believer..... sorta.

but you'll never see me preach inside a bus or jeep. nor see me with a "i love jesus" shirt (or briefs).

motmot wrote:

PALAGAY KO LANG....

PAG DUMATNG ANG TIME NA LAST BREATH OR SA DYING BED NYO OR SA TIME NA TALAGANG
DOWN NA DOWN KA, SOBRA HIRAP OR CRISIS NA HALOS MAIYAK KA NA....AT WALA NA TALAGA MALAPITAN....

DEEP INSIDE....SOMEHOW....BUBULONG DIN KAYO AT HAHANAPIN SYA EH...WHO EVER OR WHAT EVER IT IS......

LA LANG..

WHAT YOU THINK?

SPIRITUALITY....YUN LANG SANA WAG MAWALA SATIN....
DI NAMAN LAHAT NAG EEVOLVE LANG SA MGA NAKIKITA NATIN EH

AYUZ....PARTY!!

share ko lang sayo denz,ewan ko lang ah.this is not for been there been that.kasi ako sa pagtingin ko,naranasan kong umiyak ng may kabaliwan na at mag 50/50 pero di ko talaga ginawang bumulong. dahil para sa akin lang yung spirituality eh personal na lakas yan na manampalataya sa sarili at sa mga taong mahal mo. ang sa akin lang matuto na lang tayo rumespetong pananampalataya ng bawat isa,sabi nga "somewhere,somehow there is something to hold on and believe in"ang lalim ano po?

party na!!!

xjay wrote:

Random question, if you don't believe in Christ, are you an atheist? or anti-christ na?

para sa akin, once your an atheist maliwanag na anti-christ ka dahil di ka naniniwala sa JUICE of all forms eh... so pwede ka ring maging anti-mohammad, anti-budhha, at kung anu-ano pa..... yan ay kung atheist ka.

"Your petitioners are Atheists, and they define their lifestyle as follows. An Atheist loves himself and his fellow man instead of a god. An Atheist accepts that heaven is something for which we should work now here on earth for all men together to enjoy. An Atheist accepts that he can get no help through prayer, but that he must find in himself the inner conviction and strength to meet life, to grapple with it, to subdue it and to enjoy it. An Atheist accepts that only in a knowledge of himself and a knowledge of his fellow man can he find the understanding that will help to a life of fulfillment."
-nakalimutan ko na kung san ko to nakuha pero ito ang pinaniniwalaan at pinaninindigan ko. pero syempre hindi mawawala dyan ang tradisyon o naka-ugalian na ng ating mga ninuno o mga magulang kaya susunod at susunod pa rin tayo minsan tulad ng magpakasal, magpabinyag ng ating mga anak, mag-pamisa pag merong patay sa ating pamilya o kamag-anak. Lahat yan dinadaan na lang sa respeto, gawin man natin yan hindi magbabago ang paniniwala natin/ko. Eto nga ang nakakainis eh... pag di mo ginawa yang mga yan ang sama na ng tingin sa'yo ng tao. Ganun kasarado ang isip ng "ibang" relihiyoso o mas magandang tawagin na uto-uto.

Sana makatulong ang quote na yan sa ibang tao na nasa stage ng pagkukuwestyon sa relihiyon at juice... hindi yan spoon feeding(mas malala yung gumamit pa ng dahas para lang maipakalat ang sinasabi nilang pananampalataya, isinangkalan pa ang juice para lang maka-panakop ng ibang teritoryo) tulad ng ginawa sa atin o sa ibang bansa ng mga nagpauso ng relihiyon/juice na yan.

O!!! walang magagalit ah??!! pananaw at "pantanaw" ko yan...

positivementalattitude wrote:

raymond wrote:

ANCHOR - CHOKEHOLD

You wont be my guiding light in this world gone mad - I dont need fairy tales to lean on - You manipulate the mind that still has to learn - Replace their thoughts with bullshit - Deception burns - You present yourself as caring but I can see right through - Slavery and mind control is all you quest for - I wont fall. I wont fall in your group in need of something to hold -Ive got my mind and its thoughts are only mine -I need no religion to prove I exist - Only room for my mind to learn and tell me whats right - Not no fictitious male being, not no sexist book of lies - I never needed a crutch to make me strong or to hold on to my beliefs -And Id never turn to such a fucking lie -Id never be that weak...

ey-men!! haha..

I need no religion to prove I exist - Only room for my mind to learn and tell me whats right -

tama!!! tama!!! tama!!!

kelangan lang nag pag unawa at respeto.

sabi ng prof ko nung college tanga daw ako, at hindi daw tlga ako marunong mag-aral, at ayw ko den nmn maging alam alaman lng! may mga nakausap na den ako, pero hindi den ngtugma ang mga bagay bagay! pero para sa akin lng, being an atheist doesn't already mean that your an anti-christ!

malamang itanong mo sa akin kung BAKIT????

ganito yon, logically, bakit ka naging anti? kasi hindi ka naniniwala,or maaaring ayaw mo talagang paniwalaan or sadyang hindi mo talaga ito magustuhan ok! katulad ng mga ANTI-ERAP, kc ayaw nila kay ERAP, mga ANTI-GMA, dahil ayaw nila kay GMA, ANTI-CORUPTION, dahil ayaw nila sa Korapsyon, meron pa ngang ANTI-SMUGGLING and ANTI-ILLEGAL TRAFFICKING eh! dahil ayaw nila at hindi nila gusto sa mga bagay na yun! kaya base sa aking sariling opinyon, hindi ko cnabing opinyon ng karamihan at maging opinyon den to ng iba! hindi ka pwedeng maging ANTI sa mga bagay na hindi naman totally nag-eexist! so what the heck being an ANTI-CHRIST kpg naging ATHEIST ka, eh from the meaning itself ng ATHEIST eh - you don't believe in any form of god or super natural being, or it's totally a non-existence for you db? ewan ko lang ha, kung may nakakuha lng katangahan ko! pero para sa akin hindi eh! salamat ha!
so kung hindi xa nag-eexist para sayo, eh di hindi mo kailangan pang makipag-away or makipag debate para patunayan lng na hindi xa totoo, no need to be an ANTI anymore!

ayaw ko ng debate, kasi yan ang kadalasang ginagawa ng mga kinaaasarang kong politiko! kaya try to think of it nlng, it's just for you!
mwah!!!

GRAVE!

but hey! hehehehe... kaibigan!

I still believed in the word RESPECT,HELP and LOVE!!!

if you learned to respect others, it's like helping them na! so if your helping them! uyyy!!! malamang Love mo xa, ikaw ha! pasimple ka pa, hehehe!

Ewan ko lang kung ano ang tawag sakin pero.. Naniniwala ako na siguro may gumawa ng lahat, imposible rin kasi na wala, at kung sino man yun hindi pa siguro natin sya kilala. Pero di ako naniniwala na isa sa daangdaang dyos na ikinikwento ng kapwa nating tao ay ang tunay at nagiisang dyos. Isa lang ang makakapag patunay na may dyos, walang iba kung hindi ang dyos mismo. Na sa kasalukuyan nga, ay hindi pa natin kilala.. I mean.. Bakit dati lang sya nag pakita sa tao.. bakit ngaun ayaw nya mag pakita? Kasi hindi tau ung chosen ones? Unfair nman ata yun...

-D ko sinasabi tama ako ha.. Nag sshare lang.

religion is a taxonomy of names and a set of explanations for otherwise incomprehensible phenomenon. i'd prefer to think god is a scientific concept rather than purely spiritual.

naalala ko tuloy yang linsyak na da vinci code na yan. funny thing is, people CAN NOT prove that it's true, yet they CAN NOT prove it's false as well. kaya yan, hanggang ngayon open ang debate kung tuloy nga ba ang blood lineage ni pareng JC sa kasalukuyang panahon. hay!

treblinka, try reading yung Holy Blood, Holy Grail. interesting stuff. makes you ask more questions than you already have... pati na rin yung ibang books ng same authors at yung mga recommended stuff nila. sa national minsan mahahalukay mo yon kaso like around P300 sya or something.

jep_peligro wrote:

naalala ko tuloy yang linsyak na da vinci code na yan. funny thing is, people CAN NOT prove that it's true, yet they CAN NOT prove it's false as well. kaya yan, hanggang ngayon open ang debate kung tuloy nga ba ang blood lineage ni pareng JC sa kasalukuyang panahon. hay!

treblinka, try reading yung Holy Blood, Holy Grail. interesting stuff. makes you ask more questions than you already have... pati na rin yung ibang books ng same authors at yung mga recommended stuff nila. sa national minsan mahahalukay mo yon kaso like around P300 sya or something.

Try reading "Breaking the Da Vinci Code". It's an unnofficial guide book made by a good author in resource for the fictional novel. Angels and Demons have its guide book also made by the same author. It's called "Illuminating Angels and Demons". Meron niyan sa National Bookstore. Around Php500 or lower. A good book for this discussion.

Religion is, indeed, the self-consciousness and self-esteem of man who has either not yet won through to himself, or has already lost himself again. But man is no abstract being squatting outside the world. Man is the world of man—state, society. This state and this society produce religion, which is an inverted consciousness of the world, because they are an inverted world. Religion is the general theory of this world, its encyclopedic compendium, its logic in popular form, its spiritual point d'honneur, its enthusiasm, its moral sanction, its solemn complement, and its universal basis of consolation and justification. It is the fantastic realization of the human essence since the human essence has not acquired any true reality. The struggle against religion is, therefore, indirectly the struggle against that world whose spiritual aroma is religion. Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo.

"Religion is the opium of the people."

- Karl Marx, Contribution to Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right

Another good book to read.

funny how religion coincides with sacred geometry.

the point where science meets spirituality. and they dont argue.

francis wrote:

funny how religion coincides with sacred geometry.

the point where science meets spirituality. and they dont argue.

link mah boi

uu nga. got some links, anything to read 'bout that stuff?

the unseen laws of the universe.

[url] http://www.crystalinks.com/sg.html [url]

this is the bomb. where da vinci got his code, where zeitgeist talked this and that about religion. the eye of horus, the pyramids the illuminati.
open your eyes and see the pattern for yourself!

[url] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoMk0estzXc [url]



yeah, and i couldnt believe mayans, existed thousands of years before us, drew all 10 planets of our solar system with their ratios in perfect accuracy.

THE FINGERPRINT OF GOD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD3Uzj3HyU4&feature=related

VIBRATION CREATES FROM (sacred geometry)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiUuCbeKAus

m(A)rcor(E) wrote:

sabi ng prof ko nung college tanga daw ako, at hindi daw tlga ako marunong mag-aral, at ayw ko den nmn maging alam alaman lng! may mga nakausap na den ako, pero hindi den ngtugma ang mga bagay bagay! pero para sa akin lng, being an atheist doesn't already mean that your an anti-christ!

malamang itanong mo sa akin kung BAKIT????

ganito yon, logically, bakit ka naging anti? kasi hindi ka naniniwala,or maaaring ayaw mo talagang paniwalaan or sadyang hindi mo talaga ito magustuhan ok! katulad ng mga ANTI-ERAP, kc ayaw nila kay ERAP, mga ANTI-GMA, dahil ayaw nila kay GMA, ANTI-CORUPTION, dahil ayaw nila sa Korapsyon, meron pa ngang ANTI-SMUGGLING and ANTI-ILLEGAL TRAFFICKING eh! dahil ayaw nila at hindi nila gusto sa mga bagay na yun! kaya base sa aking sariling opinyon, hindi ko cnabing opinyon ng karamihan at maging opinyon den to ng iba! hindi ka pwedeng maging ANTI sa mga bagay na hindi naman totally nag-eexist! so what the heck being an ANTI-CHRIST kpg naging ATHEIST ka, eh from the meaning itself ng ATHEIST eh - you don't believe in any form of god or super natural being, or it's totally a non-existence for you db? ewan ko lang ha, kung may nakakuha lng katangahan ko! pero para sa akin hindi eh! salamat ha!
so kung hindi xa nag-eexist para sayo, eh di hindi mo kailangan pang makipag-away or makipag debate para patunayan lng na hindi xa totoo, no need to be an ANTI anymore!

ayaw ko ng debate, kasi yan ang kadalasang ginagawa ng mga kinaaasarang kong politiko! kaya try to think of it nlng, it's just for you!
mwah!!!

GRAVE!

hehe kulit mo marco!!! pero sana inisip mo muna 'to...
oo nga naman bakit pa ANTI kung di ka nga naniniwala(tama ka dito)
pero kaya may anti e dahil may mga taong naniniwala at sumusuporta o yung tinatawag nating "pro".

"no need to be an ANTI anymore!"
-pwede mo na tong sabihin pag wala ng "PRO" o wala ng naniniwala.
kaso sa ngayon meron pa kaya...


ANTI-CHRIST ka!!!

kaya kilabutan ka naman!!!
mahal ka ni papa jesus at mama magdalena!!!

sabi ni tropang mao:


"RELIGION IS POISON"



si tropang george nga e diyos nya si JOE PESCI

hehe kulit mo marco!!! pero sana inisip mo muna 'to...
oo nga naman bakit pa ANTI kung di ka nga naniniwala(tama ka dito)
pero kaya may anti e dahil may mga taong naniniwala at sumusuporta o yung tinatawag nating "pro".

"no need to be an ANTI anymore!"
-pwede mo na tong sabihin pag wala ng "PRO" o wala ng naniniwala.
kaso sa ngayon meron pa kaya...


ANTI-CHRIST ka!!!

kaya kilabutan ka naman!!!
mahal ka ni papa jesus at mama magdalena!!![/quote]

sana nga kilabutan ako, bka kc dumating yung point na kalabitin pa ako para mapansin ko eh!
makulit ba yung dating tatay miong! pcnxa na ha... alam ko nmn na iaargue mo to eh! hehehehe... hindi ko na kc xa iniisip kasi nkpgdecide na ako! hehehehehe!
OFOH!
GRAVE!

m(A)rcor(E) wrote:

sabi ng prof ko nung college tanga daw ako, at hindi daw tlga ako marunong mag-aral, at ayw ko den nmn maging alam alaman lng! may mga nakausap na den ako, pero hindi den ngtugma ang mga bagay bagay! pero para sa akin lng, being an atheist doesn't already mean that your an anti-christ!

malamang itanong mo sa akin kung BAKIT????

ganito yon, logically, bakit ka naging anti? kasi hindi ka naniniwala,or maaaring ayaw mo talagang paniwalaan or sadyang hindi mo talaga ito magustuhan ok! katulad ng mga ANTI-ERAP, kc ayaw nila kay ERAP, mga ANTI-GMA, dahil ayaw nila kay GMA, ANTI-CORUPTION, dahil ayaw nila sa Korapsyon, meron pa ngang ANTI-SMUGGLING and ANTI-ILLEGAL TRAFFICKING eh! dahil ayaw nila at hindi nila gusto sa mga bagay na yun! kaya base sa aking sariling opinyon, hindi ko cnabing opinyon ng karamihan at maging opinyon den to ng iba! hindi ka pwedeng maging ANTI sa mga bagay na hindi naman totally nag-eexist! so what the heck being an ANTI-CHRIST kpg naging ATHEIST ka, eh from the meaning itself ng ATHEIST eh - you don't believe in any form of god or super natural being, or it's totally a non-existence for you db? ewan ko lang ha, kung may nakakuha lng katangahan ko! pero para sa akin hindi eh! salamat ha!
so kung hindi xa nag-eexist para sayo, eh di hindi mo kailangan pang makipag-away or makipag debate para patunayan lng na hindi xa totoo, no need to be an ANTI anymore!

ayaw ko ng debate, kasi yan ang kadalasang ginagawa ng mga kinaaasarang kong politiko! kaya try to think of it nlng, it's just for you!
mwah!!!

GRAVE!

quote ko sarili kong cnabi, it doesn't matter pa kung may PRO, kaya nga sarili kong opinyon tlga eh! para n den nting cnabi na meron tlga para bago ntin patunayang wala, edi nagin ANTI-PRO lng yung dating non! hehehehehe! pwede na den sabihing ANTI-CHRIST ang isang tao, pero wag nya nang idahilan na kc ATHEIST kaya xa naging ANTI. hehehehe!

wala lang!

pierminator wrote:

sabi ni tropang mao:


"RELIGION IS POISON"



si tropang george nga e diyos nya si JOE PESCI

RIP, George Carlin.

All religions has its own corruptions. lol thats all i can say.

deadstop wrote:

All religions has its own corruptions. lol thats all i can say.

Correct.