on filipinos and nationalism

do you guys believe that there is such a thing as a "filipino" people?

i am... high

xtreblinkalovescenex wrote:

do you guys believe that there is such a thing as a "filipino" people?

YUP! FILIPINO AKO! LOUD AND PROUD!

ako rin

xtreblinkalovescenex wrote:

do you guys believe that there is such a thing as a "filipino" people?

I am proud to be Filipino but the name has always disturbed me.
The fact we were named after a Spanish monarch who died of syphilis...
I wish we were called Maharlikans so that the stigma of such a colonized name may be lifted.
There is such a thing as the Filipino people...
we are just an amalgam archipelago whose culture is the best of many worlds but with a distinctly Pinoy twist.


rupert

termulator wrote:

i am... high

I second that

but, we can also think about this...

how about a world without borders, no walls, and no war?

patriotism...
- one of the tools they use to grab power
and justify superiority against another country
or another human being on this planet.

how about sharing the world as one? hehe
pretty deep but never impossible.
just a thought.

check out the video below when Sandra Oh reads a
wonderful anti-war speech by Emma Goldman.

we are human beings first and filipinos by accident.
we have the right to exist equally regardless of our birthplace.

here's the link to the Emma Goldman speech:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz-0Shljq88


sorry for the confusion.
im a newbie baby...hehe

hello plague, i failed wrote:

we are human beings first and filipinos by accident.
we have the right to exist equally regardless of our birthplace.

here's the link to the Emma Goldman speech:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz-0Shljq88


sorry for the confusion.
im a newbie baby...hehe

more of your thoughts, please. it's relevant to what i'm studying.

i guess we're both interested in the same idea.
i know i am not alone, hehe.

well, first of all,
i want you to know that im just a nobody
and i dont intend to preach or pretend to know it all,
i cant even finish college. hehe

but...
i can all sum it up to one word,

freedom.
how about freedom from everything that divides us?

yes, we are filipinos.
but before we entered this world,
we haven't had the chance to choose if we want to be filipinos.
we were accidentaly born to be one.
think about how shallow racists are.

some people were born white, others were black,
some became muslims and others christians,
the rich were born with silver spoons,
and some were born on dumpsites,
some had an american mother,
and a filipino father.

it doesn't matter,
because our right to exist makes us whole.
in that way, we are no different from each other.

unity.

i did some reading and statistics show that there are 372198372198739281739912873921638721568 filipinos in california alone and among that number there are 0921328173918793718 groups among them. so whereas we have large concentrations of filipinos abroad, we are still divided by regional groups. mga taga cebu andun, mga tagalog andun, mga taga mindanao andun. based on what i've read and what i've experienced personally, whatever patriotism we have as "filipinos" isn't attributed to the fact we believe in the filipino nation, rather we believe in the clans that sired us. if you ask a person from davao for example what they are, ang unang sagot dun is "taga davao ako". i'm talking out of my ass but people in this country are incredibly tribalistic in a sense that our loyalty towards our tribes precedes all other senses of nationalism in the name of the state or the "filipino people". only reason why we subscribe to the notion of filipinism is when a: we're writing a mailing address or filling up forms or b: when people from other countries brag about how huge their country's cocks are. personally, only sense of loyalty ko is with my friends and with the scene i'm in. tagalog ang pamilya ko pero i grew up here in mindanao. hindi ako tagalog. i lived in davao since forever but i went to a chinese catholic school filled with snooty kids. hindi ako davaoeño. i grew up on american media since i only spoke english when i was younger kasi gusto ng nanay ko na hindi balu-baluktot english ko pag laki ko. what am i? what sense of loyalty do i have?

truth is i'm only loyal to the people who let me into their lives without judgement. i saw na if this was the case, if people only saw things this way. baka maniwala pa ako na may pag-asa pang maging pilipino tayo.

Though i am not Filipino i will share my thoughts on wider nationalism.
Following on from what USER: Hello plague, i failed has been saying. Nationalism in a sense scares me. It is not a world view that i find equal, just of inclusive. Often nationalism invokes tension or the mentality of us v.s them.
In Australia there has recently been a sudden push for what everyone calls "Aussie Pride" Often an excuse to drink beer and run around like an idiot with the Australian flag tied around their neck.
From being in the Philippines and talking to many Filipino people, i would say close to 90% are openly proud to be Filipino and hold a sense of nationalistic pride. This has developed over the struggles, revolution, national heroes and the now developing national identity of the Filipino people. Although i still disagree with nationalism, it seems fair in a sense to say that the Filipino people have worked for this nationalism.
In contrast; Australia is a very young country, only 200 years old. Historically we are founded on a hidden genocide; a majority of people are prejudice, racist and xenophobic. Australia is a multi-cultural country, yet the majority of white people seem to think that Australians are only white. Australia was founded as a prison island for the British Empire; our entire country is based on immigration.
If you haven't noticed i am not a nationalistic Australian >_<
Although i am thankful for the amazing resources and opportunities i have available to me, there is a lot of problems still in the mindset of Australians.

What i believe to be the most viable world view, governmental system and inclusive globalisation process, has developed from the study of many ideologies.
The communist manifesto by Karl Marx places forward the ideology of Marxism. Marxism in practice, due to the failures of human kind, develops into Communism. Communism does not work, for Marxism to have worked it had to be implemented at the beginning of man kind, developing a world community, not separated by racial, national or locational factors.
What has developed is the idea of "Cosmopolitanism".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmopolitanism
The article offers a brief outline of the theory.
We, from birth, are Earthlings. The hardest aspect of developing a cosmopolitan society is that the rich will have to sacrifice so that everyone lives at the same level. Human nature, unfortunately, in animalistic.

Or we could just FIRESTORM everyone and begin fresh as a vegan straight edge community moshing on an island for all eternity

PACQUIAO FTW!!!

hello plague, i failed wrote:

but, we can also think about this...

how about a world without borders, no walls, and no war?

patriotism...
- one of the tools they use to grab power
and justify superiority against another country
or another human being on this planet.

how about sharing the world as one? hehe
pretty deep but never impossible.
just a thought.

check out the video below when Sandra Oh reads a
wonderful anti-war speech by Emma Goldman.

A world without borders is the utopia to strive for.
A people without prejudice seems impossible though.

though my true form is an alien... im proud to be a pinoy.

Tomh wrote:

Or we could just FIRESTORM everyone and begin fresh as a vegan straight edge community moshing on an island for all eternity

A firestorm to purify!!!

xjanusx wrote:

Tomh wrote:

Or we could just FIRESTORM everyone and begin fresh as a vegan straight edge community moshing on an island for all eternity

A firestorm to purify!!!

and everyone there would grill me because i listen to reversal of man

i am proud of my homeland, but i just can't stand the fact that our country is named after a Spaniard

it doesn't matter, we are all people!

walang nationalismo, ibig sabihin mismo ng pinoy = bukas sa lahat ng kultura, nakaka lungkot pero ano ba naman magagawa mo?

yun na nga sa tingin ko eh we actually had substance. a LOT of substance we could draw from culturally before spain raped us in the ass. that's according to the shit i read though pero kung ganun nga ang bearing nun i could see na it's about time na GUMAWA nalang tayo ng sarili nating identity instead na hatak nalang tayo ng hatak sa characteristics ng ibang mga kultura. we have remnants of indigenous culture naman kahit papano and we could always dig deeper into our pre-colonial past in order to fill in the gaps. that's just me talking out of my ass though.

Where does conviction end and fanaticism begin?

all i know is we Filipinos can fuck the world if we aint that lazy

eskapo1 wrote:

xtreblinkalovescenex wrote:

do you guys believe that there is such a thing as a "filipino" people?

I am proud to be Filipino but the name has always disturbed me.
The fact we were named after a Spanish monarch who died of syphilis...
I wish we were called Maharlikans so that the stigma of such a colonized name may be lifted.
There is such a thing as the Filipino people...
we are just an amalgam archipelago whose culture is the best of many worlds but with a distinctly Pinoy twist.


rupert

^
i've learned that story when i attended the sunrise festival here in clark thanks to the group MAHARLIKA similar to AB and LFS, kakalungkot isipin sa malibog na tao nakuha pangalan ng bayan natin anyways

i may not look like one but hell yeah i am a proud maharlikan!

yes there is. the question is what does the FILIPINO people stand for really...

dhira2dharma wrote:

eskapo1 wrote:

xtreblinkalovescenex wrote:

do you guys believe that there is such a thing as a "filipino" people?

I am proud to be Filipino but the name has always disturbed me.
The fact we were named after a Spanish monarch who died of syphilis...
I wish we were called Maharlikans so that the stigma of such a colonized name may be lifted.
There is such a thing as the Filipino people...
we are just an amalgam archipelago whose culture is the best of many worlds but with a distinctly Pinoy twist.


rupert

^
i've learned that story when i attended the sunrise festival here in clark thanks to the group MAHARLIKA similar to AB and LFS, kakalungkot isipin sa malibog na tao nakuha pangalan ng bayan natin anyways

i may not look like one but hell yeah i am a proud maharlikan!

tumpak ka jan kabayan,tayo ay mga maharlikans.