post-hardcore

we talk about dischord records, cursive, drive like jehu and the like in this thread. let's talk about post-hardcore.

is frodus a post-hardcore band?

herocollection wrote:

is frodus a post-hardcore band?

probably, never really got into frodus because the bastard i was downloading their album from went offline for good.

straightouttahardcore

POSTHARDCORE - I hate that term, implying that hardcore's dead. First used after the first wave of hardcore (80-84) courtesy of the Revolution Summer group and again after the youth crew explosion of the late 80's. It's not even a musical description. It describes a period when hardcore was supposedly over. Ugh. Good thing is I barely hear that word thrown around anymore.

herocollection wrote:

is frodus a post-hardcore band?

spazzy

positivementalattitude wrote:

POSTHARDCORE - I hate that term, implying that hardcore's dead. First used after the first wave of hardcore (80-84) courtesy of the Revolution Summer group and again after the youth crew explosion of the late 80's. It's not even a musical description. It describes a period when hardcore was supposedly over. Ugh. Good thing is I barely hear that word thrown around anymore.

+10,000 pogi points

if there's a better term for this kind of punk, i'd like to hear it. the only reason i pay attention to any of these genre names is because i need something to set apart what i don't really want to listen to at the moment in regards to puink rock. the name is as stupid as emo violence is but yeah, you get the point naman.

ok, random question, Drive Like Jehu. y or n?

hardcore will not going to meet its end it will always form new ideas, actions and musically driven stuff, post-hardcore are for those pipol hu really wants to stop struggling because the world says so, but let me tell an alternative, hardcore will still goin to be alive ang there will be no such thing as post-hardcore unless you(true till the end to its intent) hear it from yourself and ignoring the dictation of the world's fashion on "hardcore" using its purest form..hehehe just a thought

ubong wrote:

hardcore will not going to meet its end it will always form new ideas, actions and musically driven stuff, post-hardcore are for those pipol hu really wants to stop struggling because the world says so, but let me tell an alternative, hardcore will still goin to be alive ang there will be no such thing as post-hardcore unless you(true till the end to its intent) hear it from yourself and ignoring the dictation of the world's fashion on "hardcore" using its purest form..hehehe just a thought

yon! nadale ni ubong! hehe.. and no..i don't like drive by jehu..

skramz.

xtreblinkalovescenex wrote:

if there's a better term for this kind of punk, i'd like to hear it. the only reason i pay attention to any of these genre names is because i need something to set apart what i don't really want to listen to at the moment in regards to puink rock. the name is as stupid as emo violence is but yeah, you get the point naman.

ok, random question, Drive Like Jehu. y or n?

pak op-hardcore

ideology is out of the question and i think the majority of the bands who play this sort of music would agree there's nothing different between the DIY ethic seen in these kinds of bands or more traditional hardcore punk. i can't listen to thrashcore all the time and there are more types of punk rock than just that. so yeah. anyway, some people here still probably listen to that so i think it would be best if we kept this thread as neutral as possible.

Beef Supreme wrote:

skramz.

no, not screamo. medyo nagsasawa rin ako sa screamoskramoskrizzles kaya naghahanap ako ng other shit to listen to that would appeal to my sensibilities.

xtreblinkalovescenex wrote:

ideology is out of the question and i think the majority of the bands who play this sort of music would agree there's nothing different between the DIY ethic seen in these kinds of bands or more traditional hardcore punk. i can't listen to thrashcore all the time and there are more types of punk rock than just that. so yeah. anyway, some people here still probably listen to that so i think it would be best if we kept this thread as neutral as possible.

ang alam kong neutral e sa auto.
sa thoughts wala. deal with it.

ubong wrote:

xtreblinkalovescenex wrote:

ideology is out of the question and i think the majority of the bands who play this sort of music would agree there's nothing different between the DIY ethic seen in these kinds of bands or more traditional hardcore punk. i can't listen to thrashcore all the time and there are more types of punk rock than just that. so yeah. anyway, some people here still probably listen to that so i think it would be best if we kept this thread as neutral as possible.

ang alam kong neutral e sa auto.
sa thoughts wala. deal with it.

i don't mind really, it's a forum nga naman. just fishing around for people who *might* listen to the same stuff i do.

dpat pala ang thread na to e "fishing for post-hardcore fanatics"

ubong wrote:

dpat pala ang thread na to e "fishing for post-hardcore fanatics"

that would actually apply, then again all threads are like that.

xtreblinkalovescenex wrote:

ubong wrote:

dpat pala ang thread na to e "fishing for post-hardcore fanatics"

that would actually apply, then again all threads are like that.

yeheyyyyy!!!

labeling by people themselves makes me fart! pooofffftttttt!

try Necrphagist pag Post-hardcore listening trip ka okaya Club 8... either way di sila hardcore

termulator wrote:

try Necrphagist pag Post-hardcore listening trip ka okaya Club 8... either way di sila hardcore

Necrophagist are actually ok in my book and i'm a huge Club 8 fan.

Hintayin nyo mapakinggan yung Phantom Rust at Battle Batuta

^^^
tangina, ngayon ko lang ata napansin ang sig mo ah. panalo ah

xtreblinkalovescenex wrote:

if there's a better term for this kind of punk, i'd like to hear it.

DUDEZ-WHO-GOT-THEIR-SISSY-ASSES-HANDED-TO-THEM-AT-A-CRO-MAGS-SHOW-SO-THEY-DECIDE-TO-FORM-THEIR-OWN-BAND-PLAYING-"SAFE"-ARTSY-FAG-COLLEGE-"INDIE"-ROCK-UNDER-THE-GUISE-OF-"HARDCORE"-JUST-TO-HAVE-CRED

there. hope it helps.

some people here are not really open-minded... ranting about other genre, no offense, opinion lang... buti p c mr. i. mckaye, isang magandang example... ung attitude and ung ethic ng pagiging punk and ung idea ng isang subculture n musica nilatag nya s pamamgitan ng Embrace, Fugazi, etc... hahahaha!!!!

fearlessvampirenagger wrote:

xtreblinkalovescenex wrote:

if there's a better term for this kind of punk, i'd like to hear it.

DUDEZ-WHO-GOT-THEIR-SISSY-ASSES-HANDED-TO-THEM-AT-A-CRO-MAGS-SHOW-SO-THEY-DECIDE-TO-FORM-THEIR-OWN-BAND-PLAYING-"SAFE"-ARTSY-FAG-COLLEGE-"INDIE"-ROCK-UNDER-THE-GUISE-OF-"HARDCORE"-JUST-TO-HAVE-CRED

there. hope it helps.

GODDAMMIT, YOU CAUGHT ME!

xtreblinkalovescenex wrote:

if there's a better term for this kind of punk, i'd like to hear it. the only reason i pay attention to any of these genre names is because i need something to set apart what i don't really want to listen to at the moment in regards to puink rock. the name is as stupid as emo violence is but yeah, you get the point naman.

ok, random question, Drive Like Jehu. y or n?

im partial to their self-titled. yank crime is too....calculus.

actually, both are pretty good releases. i listened to Drive Like Jehu all last month and i swear, i could hear their impact on bands like Botch just by listening to the end of Luau

Drive like jehu
At the drive in
These arms are snakes(?)
Dance gavin dance
Thursday

desperate_move wrote:

some people here are not really open-minded... ranting about other genre, no offense, opinion lang... buti p c mr. i. mckaye, isang magandang example... ung attitude and ung ethic ng pagiging punk and ung idea ng isang subculture n musica nilatag nya s pamamgitan ng Embrace, Fugazi, etc... hahahaha!!!!

talking about open-mindedness...alright! hahahahahaha

deadstop wrote:

Drive like jehu
At the drive in
These arms are snakes(?)
Dance gavin dance
Thursday

ganda ng lumang Thursday no?

xtreblinkalovescenex wrote:

deadstop wrote:

Drive like jehu
At the drive in
These arms are snakes(?)
Dance gavin dance
Thursday

ganda ng lumang Thursday no?

Sobra.

diba eto daw ung emo?

l0r3nz0m1r4nd4 wrote:

diba eto daw ung emo?

not "that" post-hardcore where kids lump all the shit bands they listen to when they find out they're not emo. haha

One Last Wish
Gray Matter
Q and not U
Quicksand
Helmet

deadstop wrote:

Drive like jehu
At the drive in
These arms are snakes(?)
Dance gavin dance
Thursday

xtreblinkalovescenex wrote:

l0r3nz0m1r4nd4 wrote:

diba eto daw ung emo?

not "that" post-hardcore where kids lump all the shit bands they listen to when they find out they're not emo. haha

oh i get it. gaaaaaaaaaah im so stupid. i havent tried listening to any of this. im so illiterate

l0r3nz0m1r4nd4 wrote:

xtreblinkalovescenex wrote:

l0r3nz0m1r4nd4 wrote:

diba eto daw ung emo?

not "that" post-hardcore where kids lump all the shit bands they listen to when they find out they're not emo. haha

oh i get it. gaaaaaaaaaah im so stupid. i havent tried listening to any of this. im so illiterate

try listening to some Dischord records bands

Fugazi
Nation Of Ulysses
Soulside
Grey Matter

that's a start.

xtreblinkalovescenex wrote:

l0r3nz0m1r4nd4 wrote:

xtreblinkalovescenex wrote:

l0r3nz0m1r4nd4 wrote:

diba eto daw ung emo?

not "that" post-hardcore where kids lump all the shit bands they listen to when they find out they're not emo. haha

oh i get it. gaaaaaaaaaah im so stupid. i havent tried listening to any of this. im so illiterate

try listening to some Dischord records bands

Fugazi
Nation Of Ulysses
Soulside
Grey Matter

that's a start.

ahhh! ive listened to fugazi before. di ko carry! un lang ung akin. hehe!

may kanya kanya tayong 3p. i respect that!
un pala un! now i know!

that's alright, haha. oh well.

hmmm.
i guess i'm an art fag then, nothing to be ashamed of that.
elliott and kill holiday have been rocking my playlists recently.

it's really harsh to discriminate forms of music based on labels attached to them.
post hardcore, or better yet, the word itself has become a device to describe some styles that came out after/as a result/as a reaction to the type of "hardcore" prevalent during different years.

it could be a another word in favor of the much dreaded "emo, screamo, emoviolece, or skramz", or basically it can still mean college rock, indie rock, experimental, discordant stuff, etc.

get what im going at here?

mic has a point, but i wouldn't consider it as an indicator that hardcore is dead. madaming magagalit dyan.
just the way post punk would be a statement that punk is dead. (but punk being dead is a matter of debate, lol)

there would always be individuals in punk and hc who would try to broaden one's musical tastes.
maybe they listen to a few mellower bands, try a different aesthetic outside the testosterone fueled beats we have all come across. some would try to incorporate that aestheitc to their current musical projects or apply it to a new one, which would be met by either disgust or appreciation for the more "palatable" sound.

disgust because palatable = pop or radio friendly = sellout
or because they've gone soft, and this lack of aggressiveness = gay or lame for some who like it really brutal.

appreciation from some because theyre not afraid to change things and bring something new to the table
or because it may be a sign of a more mature outlook/or broadening of taste
or maybe it could be a rest from all the bands trying to destroy your hearing.

i could be wrong about the above, but i've learned not to really care about labels and just enjoy things for what they are without worrying about scene cred and all that shit.

^^^
ayun.

anyway, i'm exploring my disco's back catalog. they were actually a pretty good post-hardcore band before they went all out math-rock/minimalist whatever. collapse of an erratic lung and language of numbers are pretty solid releases if can't get into cancer or paradise just yet.

wala, haram pa din. HAAAARAAAAM

enough of that bullshit discrimination.

Fugazi!
One Last Wish!

tadsz wrote:

wala, haram pa din. HAAAARAAAAM

Drescher is a good release.

D00dz

MAPS AND ATLASES

keida wrote:

but i've learned not to really care about labels and just enjoy things for what they are without worrying about scene cred and all that shit.

deadstop wrote:

D00dz

MAPS AND ATLASES

sakop pa ba yun ng post-hardcore? they were always more math rock sa pandinig ko eh. they are fucking amazing though.