Labelling

http://indiebandnews.blogspot.com/2011/06/labelling.html

Nagsulat ako ng artikulo tungkol sa labelling. ano ang reaksyon niyo tungkol dito?

tama tama!

hindi ko maintindihan ung point ng paggawa ng critique ng "labelling"? ganun ba talaga kaimportante kung ano mang style ng tugtugan ang ginagawa nyo? di ko lang talaga magets yung point.

soral ng rcom ikaw ba yan?

di ko rin na gets.
pero hanep sa tagalog writing.
pasok yung hindi porket me torotot ska (pwede kasing new year, jazz, adultery reference)
appreciate the effort, oks ang sense of humour.
cguro minsan mababaw ang pagtingin kapag masyado naka focus sa "pop culture" referencing
instead of the usual 'lyrical o ethical content' ng banda.

may point!!!
kaso useless mag label sa mga bandang creative talaga(nasusuppress kasi yun mismong creativity, siguro dun maganda ilagay yun term na avantgarde as a genre? ) well music is art pa rin kaya dapat hndi isupress (do what you want with your music ) )
kaso if you are aiming to recreate the "essence" of a band or genre tingin ko dun na papasok yun labeling para makuha mo yun exact essence nun genre XD

Ban wrote:

may point!!!
kaso useless mag label sa mga bandang creative talaga(nasusuppress kasi yun mismong creativity, siguro dun maganda ilagay yun term na avantgarde as a genre? ) well music is art pa rin kaya dapat hndi isupress (do what you want with your music ) )
kaso if you are aiming to recreate the "essence" of a band or genre tingin ko dun na papasok yun labeling para makuha mo yun exact essence nun genre XD

kaso if you are aiming to recreate the "essence" of a band or genre tingin ko dun na papasok yun labeling sa banda para makuha mo yun exact feel nun music na sinusubukan irecreate.

importante ang labelling para maorganize nga ang mga banda at scene, kaso sa tingin ko hndi lahat ng bagay ay kelangan ilabel

sa pagkaintindi ko kasi, sinasabi ni soral, nagkakaroon na ng mga misinterpretations and confusion between bands and their genre kaya na mimislead ang mga ibang tao. lalo na mga wala talagang alam tungkol sa specific na tugtugan na un. for example pagsinabing hardcore, may mga nakakaisip na puro screamo lang un. or pag sinabing metal, ang alam lang ng iba ay puro growl lang ang ganun. etc.... opinion ko lang mga pre based sa nabasang article

Ban wrote:

Ban wrote:

may point!!!
kaso useless mag label sa mga bandang creative talaga(nasusuppress kasi yun mismong creativity, siguro dun maganda ilagay yun term na avantgarde as a genre? ) well music is art pa rin kaya dapat hndi isupress (do what you want with your music ) )
kaso if you are aiming to recreate the "essence" of a band or genre tingin ko dun na papasok yun labeling para makuha mo yun exact essence nun genre XD

kaso if you are aiming to recreate the "essence" of a band or genre tingin ko dun na papasok yun labeling sa banda para makuha mo yun exact feel nun music na sinusubukan irecreate.

importante ang labelling para maorganize nga ang mga banda at scene, kaso sa tingin ko hndi lahat ng bagay ay kelangan ilabel

agree! sabi ko nga "label with standards or not to label at all".

jeffrotten wrote:

soral ng rcom ikaw ba yan?

ako nga ito!

point ko po dito ay yun education about the music.
maganda kasi pagnaeeducate ang mga banda at mga nakikinig sa tugtugan nila.
para sa akin kaya hindi umaangat ang ibang eksena o nabibigyan ng exposure kahit na "alam ng marami ang genre na yun" dahil sa misinterpretation at pagiging uneducated sa music scene.
nasabi na ng along the way at ni ban yun iba.
anyway, salamat talaga sa pagbabasa. Much appreciated!

naalala ko bigla si niggatron, kung nandito pa yun eeps yun panigurado hehehe

tama tama!! kelangan ma educate ang mga listeners at yun ibang bands para mayos at walang mintis at para mabawasan ang panghuhusga )

^tama dude kasi sa panahon ngayon nagkakaron ng discrimination sa music (tama ba yung term na yon?) kung metalheads ka or punk/hardcore ay dun \ lang sila sa genre na yun nakakulong, nakikinig sila ng music base sa genre at hindi sa kung anong laman nong kanta

Me hate MUSIC!!!

jeffrotten wrote:

^tama dude kasi sa panahon ngayon nagkakaron ng discrimination sa music (tama ba yung term na yon?) kung metalheads ka or punk/hardcore ay dun \ lang sila sa genre na yun nakakulong, nakikinig sila ng music base sa genre at hindi sa kung anong laman nong kanta

haha bali ganun nga ang nang yayari, kaso kelangan aminin ng both sides na kung wala yun mga "cross over" people/bands na yan hndi uunlad ang tugtugan XD kaso iba na yun sa labeling medyo malayo na ata yun XD

chuck wrote:

Me hate MUSIC!!!

GRIND!!!!

labelling in its pure aspect is a natural need of the mind, and is healthy, but when labelling becomes a way to stereotype, or labelling becomes stereotyping then it becomes counterproductive. Many mainstream label companies rely on "labelling"(in the sense of stereotyping) to make big profits. Back in the 90'sjust the word gothic metal, or grunge, or even hardcore in the label will mean money for them. So from stereotyping, labelling becomes a marketing strategy. Then the rich kids will buy all records with the type of music they think will make them cool. Then labelling becomes becomes a tool for the status quo(punk aKO, metal ako). Then labelling is used as a reason to fight(punk vs metal, hiphop vs metal, vilmanians vs noranians.) And an artist or band was tagged as a sell out when they incorporated a different genre in their style- then labelling becomes confining, an artistic retrogression.

so i somehow agree with soral to label with standards or not label at all. But my point more is- label for the simple reason of describing or identifying or not label at all.

PS
posers and wannabe famous have also been using labelling as a stepping stone(kaya nga merong mga dating mas punk pa kay jello biafra or mas metal pa kay dave mustain) e nag a RNB na ngayon.

renminzaitsev wrote:

labelling in its pure aspect is a natural need of the mind, and is healthy, but when labelling becomes a way to stereotype, or labelling becomes stereotyping then it becomes counterproductive. Many mainstream label companies rely on "labelling"(in the sense of stereotyping) to make big profits. Back in the 90'sjust the word gothic metal, or grunge, or even hardcore in the label will mean money for them. So from stereotyping, labelling becomes a marketing strategy. Then the rich kids will buy all records with the type of music they think will make them cool. Then labelling becomes becomes a tool for the status quo(punk aKO, metal ako). Then labelling is used as a reason to fight(punk vs metal, hiphop vs metal, vilmanians vs noranians.) And an artist or band was tagged as a sell out when they incorporated a different genre in their style- then labelling becomes confining, an artistic retrogression.

so i somehow agree with soral to label with standards or not label at all. But my point more is- label for the simple reason of describing or identifying or not label at all.

again, very well said.

parang kilala ko yun mga nag RNB ngayon ah.